the abraham lincoln not to patrol the persian gulf and then talk about these historic cuts. what is the message? >> well, the message is, at least to our enemies, which is the important message, brian, is that the united states is withdrawing slowly but surely, from a dominant role in the world and as you know, most of our wars since the end of world war ii have been caused by the enemy miscalculating us. north korea, the north vietnamese, saddam hussein, you can roll down the list of unfor nate wars, started by the enemy who thought we were weak, brian. >> brian: so now if this sequester takes place, by the way, congressman upton telling us it's unavoidable. looks like we're going into it. if they told you cut 40 billion, the problem was, general, they have not been preparing to cut $40 billion. everybody thought they would get a deal on this. now what is it like inside the pentagon today? >> oh, my gosh. it's just awful.